12 Here (or: In this place) exists (or: is) the persistent and patient endurance (the steadfast, humble remaining-under for support) of the set-apart folks (or: from the saints) – the people continually keeping watch upon (guarding, observing, having custody over) God's implanted goals (impartations of the finished product within; inward purposed directives) and the faith of Jesus (or: the trust pertaining to Jesus; the loyalty belonging to Jesus; the faith which belongs to and comes from Jesus; the conviction which is Jesus; the reliability of and from Jesus).
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Revelation 14:12
John 9:1-41
1 Now continuing passing along, He saw a man [who had been] born blind (blind from out of birth),
2 and His disciples asked Him, saying, "Rabbi, who failed (sinned; missed the mark), this man or his parents, to the end that he should be born blind?"
3 Jesus judged the situation and replied, "Neither this man sinned (missed the mark; failed) nor his parents, but rather [it is] so that God's deeds (the works of God; the acts having their origin in God) could be set in clear light and manifested within him.
4 "It is constantly necessary (or: binding) for Me [other MSS: us] to be habitually performing the works (accomplishing the deeds; active in the acts; doing the business) of the One sending Me [other MSS: us] while it is day; night (or: a night; = darkness; cf Gen. 1:5) progressively (repeatedly; habitually) comes, when no one is able (or: has power) to continue performing work (accomplishing deeds; doing business).
5 "Whenever I may continue being within the world, I am the world's Light (or: = When I can progressively be within the System – the ordered arrangement – I exist being the System's light, even the Light which becomes the [new] spiritual atmosphere and sociological environment)."
6 After saying these things, He spits on the ground and makes clay mud from out of the spitted saliva, and then smears (or: anoints; rubs on; [WH following B read: applies; puts... on]) His clay mud upon the blind man's eyes,
7 then says to him, "Lead on under (or: Go your way; Depart) into the swimming-pool of Siloam" [note: situated south of the Temple, fed by a subterranean tunnel] – which is normally being translated and interpreted 'Being sent forth on a mission (or: Commissioned; Being made representative)' – "[and] wash yourself!" Therefore, he went off (or: away) and washed himself and came [back] seeing.
8 Then the neighbors, and those habitually observing (being spectators of; carefully noticing) him formerly – that he was existing being a beggar – began saying, "Is this one not the person normally sitting and constantly begging?"
9 Some were saying, "This is he." Others were saying, "No, but he is like him.” Yet that man kept saying, "I, myself, am [he; the one]."
10 Then they began saying to him, "How, then, were your eyes opened up?"
11 That man decidedly replied, "The Man called 'Jesus' made clay mud and anointed (smeared [it] on) my eyes, and said to me, 'Lead on under into the Siloam, and wash yourself.' And then, upon washing myself, I looked up and saw again."
12 And so they said to him, "Where is that one?" He then says, "I have not seen so I don't know."
13 They are progressively leading him – the once-blind man – to the Pharisees.
14 Now it was on a sabbath day in which Jesus made the clay mud and opened up his eyes.
15 Again, then, the Pharisees also began asking him how he saw again (= received his sight). Now he said to them, "He applied clay mud upon my eyes, and I washed myself, and now (or: the next thing), I am seeing."
16 Some, from out of the Pharisees, therefore began saying, "This man is not on God's side (or: from God; beside God; in God' presence), because he is not keeping (observing; guarding) the sabbath." Yet others were saying, "How is a person who misses the mark (a man, a sinner; an erring man; a man who is failing [in regard to the Law]) able to be constantly doing such signs?" And there was a tearing split-effect (= a division) among them.
17 Therefore, they continued again saying to the once-blind man, "What are you yourself now saying about him, seeing that he opened up your eyes?" And the man exclaimed, "He is a prophet!"
18 The Jews (= religious authorities), however, did not trust or believe concerning him, that he was blind and saw again (or: received his sight), until they summoned the parents of the man being made able to see again,
19 and they questioned them, saying, "Is this your son, who you say was born blind? How, then, is he presently seeing now?"
20 His parents considered, then replied, saying, "We have seen, and thus know, that this is our son, and that he was born blind.
21 "Yet how he now presently continues seeing, we have not seen and do not know, nor who opened his eyes we have not seen and do not know. You men ask him; he is of age (hasmaturity; is an adult). He will speak concerning himself."
22 His parents said these things because they had been fearing the Jews (= religious authorities), for the Jews (= Jewish leadership) had put it together and agreed, so that if anyone should ever confess (acknowledge; avow) Him Christ (or: express the same idea, that He is [the] Anointed), he should come to be [put] away from the synagogue (= be excommunicated; = be cut off from membership in the synagogue, and thus be considered an outcast).
23 Because of this [situation], his parents said, "He's an adult (He has maturity; He has come of age), you men inquire upon him."
24 Then a second time they summoned the man who had been blind, and said to him, "Give glory (the credit and reputation) to God. We have seen and now know that this man is a sinner (one who misses the goal; or: an outcast)."
25 So then that man considered and replied, "I have not seen and do not know if he is a sinner (one who does not comply with the religious rules, thus missing the goal; an outcast). I have seen and know one thing: that I was existing being a blind man; at present (or: just now) I constantly see."
26 So then they said to him [some MSS add: again], "What did he do to you? How did he open up your eyes?"
27 He decidedly answered them, "I told you already, and you folks did not listen (or: hear; = pay attention)! Why are you now wanting to hear [it] again? You are not wanting to become his disciples, also, are you?"
28 So now they hurled abuse at him (railed and reviled him) and said, "You are now a disciple of that fellow, but we ourselves are disciples of Moses!
29 "We have seen, and know, that God has spoken to (or: in) Moses. But this fellow – we have not seen, nor do we know, where he is from."
30 The man insightfully replied, saying to them, "Accordingly indeed, in this [situation] is the marvelous thing (the wonder; the astonishing state of affairs): that you yourselves have not seen nor know where he is from, and yet he opened up my eyes (= made me able to see)!
31 "We have seen, and know, that God does not usually listen (or: normally respond) to sinners (to those habitually missing the target; to those continuously being in error), but rather if anyone may be one who reveres and stands in awe of God, and may be habitually doing His will (intent; purpose), He continuously listens to (hears, or, responds to) this one.
32 "From out of the age [past] (= from of old; = in known history; = since the world began) it is not heard that anyone opened up [the] eyes of one having been born blind.
33 "If this one was not being from God's side (on God's side; at God's side), he would not have been having power (he would not have been able) to be doing anything."
34 They decisively replied, and said to him, "You yourself were wholly born within sins [idiom = You bastard!] – and are YOU now teaching us?" And so they cast him out (threw him outside).
35 Jesus heard that they threw him outside, and so upon finding him, said to him, "Are you yourself now trusting and believing into the Son of man (or: = the son of Adam; = the Human Being; or: = the eschatological messianic figure [A, L and others read: Son of God])?"
36 And in considered response, that one says, "And who is he, sir (or: my lord; master), so that I can believe (or, as a future: to the end that I will believe and trust) into him?"
37 Jesus said to him, "You have both seen Him, and the One presently talking (speaking) with you, that One is He."
38 Then he began affirming, "I am now believing, Lord (or: Lord, I trust)!" And he bowed down to the ground (did obeisance), kissing toward Him, and gave worship to Him.
39 Then Jesus says to him, "I came into this world (or: ordered System of control and subjection) into a result of sifting and deciding (an effect of separation; a judgment): to the end that the folks NOT habitually seeing and observing can (or: may; would) be constantly seeing and observing, and the ones habitually seeing and observing should (or: would; may) become blind ones."
40 And so those from out of the Pharisees – being with Him – heard these things, and said to Him, "We ourselves are not also blind ones, are we?"
41 Jesus says to them, "If you men had been and were continuing being blind ones, you were not holding and would not be having sin (error; a miss of the goal; failure). Yet now you continue saying that, 'We are continuously seeing and habitually observing.' Your error (sin; failure; miss of the target) continues remaining (is habitually dwelling; constantly abides).